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NPC (Bishop Bonifes Adoyo) and Land scandal
uwazimtupu
#1 Posted : Sunday, May 02, 2010 9:39:46 AM
Rank: New-farer


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 4
Location: Nairobi
The year 2008 started with high hopes for many of our worshippers at CITAM and other Christian communities who joined us to start a 'GATED COMMUNITY OF BELIEVERS'. Each of the family was attracted by the good concept that was developed by a reputable Architectural Firm. The members also relied on their faith and the desire to join a good neighbouhood. Most of th membrs rushed to sell their homes and committ to loans in the hope that they would buy a share in La Nyavu Gardnes and build their dream homes.

I remember the many breakfast meeting that were held and members urged to hurry up and finalise paying for the loan and get back their titles/ subleases. I remember how the cluster system was explained and that all the members needs would be accomodated for the ones who were ready to start to take the first clusters and have a phased construction.

Time has gone by and I want to believe that La Nyavu was a well-crafted scheme to entice, hook and exploit members in the name of faith! This is illustrated by the events that have occurred in the last two years; We are told that La Nyavu is a faith project. A Faith projct must reflect principles of good Christinans namely Transparency and openness in all dealings but LGL thrives on wtholding information from members so as to exploit the situation.

This scenario is going to dog the project from now on unless something s done to it. The following points illustrated my doubts of the intetion of this project,
1.In the initial project only 110 homes were planned but we understand that they are more and most of the amenities you had wished for are gone. Do you have say in the type of neighborhood you have paid money for?
2.We understand that plans have been approved and you had no input into the design you had wanted. Is this still your dream home.?
3.The management claim that they will sell at vendors terms. Who is the vendor here? Didnt we have this people hold the land in trust.
4.In one of the meetings, we were told that members would be refunded for any overpayment after completion. Have you heard of this again?
5.Last year, you were told that Ksh 2M was requird for infrastructure. Ithe members noted that this was ahigh figure and t was agreed that proper procuremnt plus BQs would be sought. This has not happened and letters of demand have been sent to you. Who stand to loose here? Is this a scheme to get monet from you as long as you have faith.
6. The latest shocker is that you will not have land. Not for the moment. Last week the management signed and MoU with some America inestors to finance the construction. This is why they are not issuing titles. After that the loan will be handed over to a local bank for you to service the loan. You will be lucky if your home is not sold by the bank for non-paymnet of loand since the minum loan is Ksh 15M. The truth is that someone is getting a % of the total loan and this is the Project Manager! The main question to the bishop is his relationship with the PM and whether he is his bussiness partner as well. Is there a connection between what % will be paid (this is purely a matter between the PM and the management of LGL). Is there conflict of interest here???

Our payer to the bishop is that transparency is key to any project and hat you cannot determine our future. You cannot take us all the way since we have expressed doubt and the facts are illustrated above! What can we show for the plot before you engage us in paying for inflated infrastructure without justification! I understand many people have paid but this is not fair. You have not showed the members the plans for the said infrastructure yet you cost it. Why are you imposing a decree on us?

With all due respect I challenge the bishop to address the following;
1.Why was the former accountant Francis sacked and his data deleted by your trusted confidant and business partner Mr. Nyakundi? What was being covered here?
2.How much money did you save in the Karen project and where was it invested? What happened to the refunds and how come you cant net it off our infrastructure charges.
3.We understand that there is a committee called PIT. Who elected them and who do they represent?
4.Why are you still tying more people to the next scheme with the same promises of a sale agreement after completion of project in the Mwiki land. What assurance do you have that they wont get milked dry like it has happened in the Karen scheme?
5.Your previous excuse that you cannot issue titles since you dont have the land does not hold

We pray that in the next few days you will unconditionally give members their sale agreements and let them decided the conditions that wish to live in. We not that infrastructure is a key component but you must justify this in a transparent manner. We also note that you Project Manager Mr, Nyakundi displays a high degree of arrogance and this can only be atributed to your close links with you. He uses your name to intimidate members and this is rather ODD.

As you hand over the mantle, we hope that our investment will be free of this evil and this way shall respect you. In the absence of that we shall resist this with prayer hoping that God will have his will done!

We also note that divide and rule attitude of no meetings and clever manoeuvrings by your manager. I challenge you to stand before the congregation and prove that this land is your and that you are selling to us as your manager keeps bragging. Kindly note that many people are under pressure from banks

Kindly send this mail to as manyy Christian groups and Kenya community who may be conned from this scheme or the Ruai/Mwiki one. Save the church of Christ by having thr truth come out. Let us not use the name of the Lord to enrich ourselves!
God bless you and you struggle to realise your dream homes!

kadonye
#2 Posted : Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:11:47 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 5/30/2009
Posts: 1,390
Very serious allegations against that man of God n the most respected pentecostal church...have u exhausted all avenues b4 going public as the word of God demands?
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
kadonye
#3 Posted : Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:12:22 PM
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Very serious allegations against that man of God n the most respected pentecostal church...have u exhausted all avenues b4 going public as the word of God demands?
What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
masukuma
#4 Posted : Sunday, May 02, 2010 7:52:07 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
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@uwazimtupu, I am an NPC member but not a member of LA NYAVU. So how does Rt. Bishop Adoyo come into it?
The tragedy of the African is that he/she has been conditioned to consume what he does not produce and produce what he does not consume
SUSU
#5 Posted : Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:02:11 PM
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Joined: 11/14/2006
Posts: 64
Location: Far East
He..He..He..He...Iko kitu Inaungua hapa...No commentsd'oh!
famooz
#6 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 7:07:16 AM
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Joined: 11/19/2007
Posts: 1,982
Something about this thread does not sound right. You start it off like Uvumi,you are evidently angry It seems very misplaced- this thread.

Are you asking for opinion? Can you verify this information?There ins't enough information to even form an opinion,yet you start this thread in a way that will catch peoples eyes and lead them to make allegations. Needless to say,the damage is already done.

poundfoolish
#7 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 8:35:11 AM
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Joined: 12/2/2009
Posts: 2,346
Location: Nairobi
As it has been asked.. did you exhaust avenues in the church to express your dissatisfaction?

Reasons why the No vote may just pass..
kucheza na Mungu na Manabii wake...

Hopefully God doesnt decided to deal solely with you

Wazua i suggest a delete of this thread.
current
#8 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 10:06:59 AM
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i agree, this thread should not be in wazua. put up a paid ad in the dailies to get your issues addressed
Fundaah
#9 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 10:28:01 AM
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very serious allegations ......I hope the author can prove this in a court of law.......Remember nowadays your emails are monitored.......You can say anything but be sure it the truth and absolute truth....
Isaiah 65:17-Look! I am creating new heavens and a new earth, and no one will even think about the old ones anymore
FundamentAli
#10 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 10:38:06 AM
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There could be nothing wrong with what is going on. As a developer, it is normal to provide the title as a security for the development. Once the development is complete the lender has to lift his charge to allow the sales to go throw. Please find out how developers go about their business and compare with what is going on at your church and then raise concerns.
keraka
#11 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 10:50:45 AM
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You sound bitter and this betrays your honesty. kindly sort this out through the right channels coz the man of cloth is not here to give his side of the story.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
AmHere
#12 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 11:16:55 AM
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Joined: 7/7/2009
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Your concerns even if valid might be in the wrong forum. Anyone else on Wazua involved in this project? Difficult to tell without input from the accused what is the truth and what is not.
sheep
#13 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 12:10:57 PM
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money,money,money,moni,moni,daimono!
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
Pablo
#14 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 3:30:23 PM
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@all

uwazimtupu has the rights to tell us what he is going thro. Unless youve personally lost 2M in ascheme like this will you know what bitter is.

He is entitled to be bitter.

Possibly there is not con just that they are not communicating what is going on to those who have put up the cash.
Pablo
#15 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 3:34:28 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Anybody for the Ruai/Mwiki scheme?...........


I didnt think so.
masukuma
#16 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 3:43:03 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 6,680
Location: Nairobi
@Pablo , I don't think the Man of the clothe administers the SACCO. a SACCO management is a bunch of guyz selected by the members. in this writing he has not mentioned the bishop only in the title to me this is suspect. so he should come clear to answer whether the bishop is in the La Nyavu sacco's management or something close to that. He maybe just a member!
The tragedy of the African is that he/she has been conditioned to consume what he does not produce and produce what he does not consume
Brewer
#17 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 3:52:03 PM
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Joined: 6/24/2008
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Pablo wrote:

...uwazimtupu has the rights to tell us what he is going thro....


Really? And what is the Bishop supposed to tell us? When? Where?
This is not the forum. And some brooms sweep too broadly!
murenj
#18 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 5:53:29 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2008
Posts: 851
Location: nairobi
saw this in the secular press. I guess the bag is out of the cat now....
and this is not the only scam in that church. Some time last year one of the church officials sold a motor vehicle to 5 church members con man style. eventually the vehicle was reposed by the registered owner............the case was last being investigated at kilimani police station.....
NPC members, stay safe................
uwazimtupu
#19 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 6:43:45 PM
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For some clarification, Bishop Adoyo is the Chairman of La Nyavu Sacco and the Project Manager is a fellow called Nyakundi. The Sacco is run by only 3 people.

Now, Members have been complaining for the whole of last year. Decisions regarding members are made unilaterally without consulting members. Meetings are rarely held. The whole of this year, there is not a single meeting that has been held. When they are held, it is to intimidate members and ask them to have their money refunded. When members say that tendering should be done to get the best value for money, they are intimidated. Guys, you can not understand the rot that is taking place in our churches today. Greed has taken over. Those who are doubting what is being said here just talk tom someone who is a member of LA Nyavu. I am not the author of this article, but I am a member. It has been circulated all over.
uwazimtupu
#20 Posted : Monday, May 03, 2010 6:45:36 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Masukuma;

The Bishop is the Chairman of a committee of 4 people who run the Sacco like their mothers kitchen.
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