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Reject This BBI Joke
sqft
#41 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2020 1:35:50 PM
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Jump-steady wrote:
The wiper leader saw nothing wrong with the document. smile


So what is wrong with the document? Tell us.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
essyk
#42 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2020 9:21:14 PM
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Joined: 11/15/2011
Posts: 4,484
We will need another Gigantic bbi to heal the wounds that will arise out of this.
The cracks and the fall out will be dealt with by generations to come.There's nothing mind blowing abt it, just twisted words to entice the gullible.It's disgusting to even think abt it in the midst of all the ills that kenya is facing.
All I see is people united by greed for power. I hope it dies a quick death.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
masukuma
#43 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2020 9:31:19 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,701
Location: Nairobi
sqft wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
The wiper leader saw nothing wrong with the document. smile


So what is wrong with the document? Tell us.

Nothing... we just don't want it!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
aemathenge
#44 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2020 9:44:31 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,359
Location: Kerugoya
masukuma wrote:
sqft wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
The wiper leader saw nothing wrong with the document. smile


So what is wrong with the document? Tell us.

Nothing... we just don't want it!


I hate it when I have to agree with you. I really do.
aemathenge
#45 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2020 9:58:50 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,359
Location: Kerugoya
sqft wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
The wiper leader saw nothing wrong with the document. smile


So what is wrong with the document? Tell us.


... Oh, and by the way, in the words of The President of the Law Society of Kenya, as reported in The Star Newspaper:

Quote:
The Law Society of Kenya has rejected the BBI proposal for a Judiciary ombudsman to be appointed by the President.

LSK president Nelson Havi on Tuesday told the Star lawyers will lobby for the proposal to be rejected in Parliament or at the referendum.

He said they will challenge any legislation enacted to implement the unconstitutional proposal.

Havi said it's clear that the role of the ombudsman will be to inspect judicial officers with the aim of intimidating and castigating judges.

"We will in essence have a silent executor whose work is to collect gossip and rumours to railroad judges.

We will not allow that," he said.

The BBI report that was launched at the Bomas of Kenya on Monday proposes changes in the administration of justice with the creation of the office of Judiciary Ombudsman.

The ombudsman will be nominated by the President with the approval of the National Assembly.

The tenure of the office holder will be five years.

Among the duties envisaged include receiving and conducting inquiries into complaints against judges, registrars, magistrates and other judicial officers and staff of the Judiciary.

But there currently exists an ombudsman's office held by the Deputy Chief Justice.
It is as an administrative office under Chief Justice David Maraga.

It's mandated to enhance public confidence and enhance transparency and accountability.

The office receives and processes complaints from members of the public against judicial officers.

Advocate Charles Kanjama said the problem with the BBI proposal is the President as the appointing authority and if placed in the Constitution, it will dilute the powers of the Judicial Service Commission.

"If it has to be in the Constitution, it should be made clear that it is JSC to appoint and not the President.

It should also be clear that it does not take part of the job from JSC," he said.

During the launch on Monday, Deputy President William Ruto said if the BBI report is adopted as it is, it will interfere with the independence of the Judiciary.

The BBI also seeks to raise the bar for the seven-member bench of the Supreme Court.

The Chief Justice and other judges must have at least 20 years experience as a superior court judge.

But Havi said the recommendation is unnecessary.

"A legal practitioner is least active past 30 years in practice.

Let it be fifteen years maximum and 10 years minimum.

I also encourage the need to have youthful judges," he said.


Source The Star; Link: https://www.the-star.co....-on-judiciary-ombudsman/
murchr
#46 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2020 10:14:24 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,861
They took away everything meant for the disabled in the constitution Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sqft
#47 Posted : Tuesday, October 27, 2020 11:43:38 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 1/10/2015
Posts: 771
Location: Kenya
aemathenge wrote:
sqft wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
The wiper leader saw nothing wrong with the document. smile


So what is wrong with the document? Tell us.


... Oh, and by the way, in the words of The President of the Law Society of Kenya, as reported in The Star Newspaper:

Quote:
The Law Society of Kenya has rejected the BBI proposal for a Judiciary ombudsman to be appointed by the President.

LSK president Nelson Havi on Tuesday told the Star lawyers will lobby for the proposal to be rejected in Parliament or at the referendum.

He said they will challenge any legislation enacted to implement the unconstitutional proposal.

Havi said it's clear that the role of the ombudsman will be to inspect judicial officers with the aim of intimidating and castigating judges.

"We will in essence have a silent executor whose work is to collect gossip and rumours to railroad judges.

We will not allow that," he said.

The BBI report that was launched at the Bomas of Kenya on Monday proposes changes in the administration of justice with the creation of the office of Judiciary Ombudsman.

The ombudsman will be nominated by the President with the approval of the National Assembly.

The tenure of the office holder will be five years.

Among the duties envisaged include receiving and conducting inquiries into complaints against judges, registrars, magistrates and other judicial officers and staff of the Judiciary.

But there currently exists an ombudsman's office held by the Deputy Chief Justice.
It is as an administrative office under Chief Justice David Maraga.

It's mandated to enhance public confidence and enhance transparency and accountability.

The office receives and processes complaints from members of the public against judicial officers.

Advocate Charles Kanjama said the problem with the BBI proposal is the President as the appointing authority and if placed in the Constitution, it will dilute the powers of the Judicial Service Commission.

"If it has to be in the Constitution, it should be made clear that it is JSC to appoint and not the President.

It should also be clear that it does not take part of the job from JSC," he said.

During the launch on Monday, Deputy President William Ruto said if the BBI report is adopted as it is, it will interfere with the independence of the Judiciary.

The BBI also seeks to raise the bar for the seven-member bench of the Supreme Court.

The Chief Justice and other judges must have at least 20 years experience as a superior court judge.

But Havi said the recommendation is unnecessary.

"A legal practitioner is least active past 30 years in practice.

Let it be fifteen years maximum and 10 years minimum.

I also encourage the need to have youthful judges," he said.


Source The Star; Link: https://www.the-star.co....on-judiciary-ombudsman/


So the biggest problem of the wheelbarrow hustler huko mashinani is how the ombudsman is appointed? OK.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
aemathenge
#48 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2020 8:14:53 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,359
Location: Kerugoya
sqft wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
sqft wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
The wiper leader saw nothing wrong with the document. smile


So what is wrong with the document? Tell us.


... Oh, and by the way, in the words of The President of the Law Society of Kenya, as reported in The Star Newspaper:

Quote:
The Law Society of Kenya has rejected the BBI proposal for a Judiciary ombudsman to be appointed by the President.

LSK president Nelson Havi on Tuesday told the Star lawyers will lobby for the proposal to be rejected in Parliament or at the referendum.

He said they will challenge any legislation enacted to implement the unconstitutional proposal.

Havi said it's clear that the role of the ombudsman will be to inspect judicial officers with the aim of intimidating and castigating judges.

"We will in essence have a silent executor whose work is to collect gossip and rumours to railroad judges.

We will not allow that," he said.

The BBI report that was launched at the Bomas of Kenya on Monday proposes changes in the administration of justice with the creation of the office of Judiciary Ombudsman.

The ombudsman will be nominated by the President with the approval of the National Assembly.

The tenure of the office holder will be five years.

Among the duties envisaged include receiving and conducting inquiries into complaints against judges, registrars, magistrates and other judicial officers and staff of the Judiciary.

But there currently exists an ombudsman's office held by the Deputy Chief Justice.
It is as an administrative office under Chief Justice David Maraga.

It's mandated to enhance public confidence and enhance transparency and accountability.

The office receives and processes complaints from members of the public against judicial officers.

Advocate Charles Kanjama said the problem with the BBI proposal is the President as the appointing authority and if placed in the Constitution, it will dilute the powers of the Judicial Service Commission.

"If it has to be in the Constitution, it should be made clear that it is JSC to appoint and not the President.

It should also be clear that it does not take part of the job from JSC," he said.

During the launch on Monday, Deputy President William Ruto said if the BBI report is adopted as it is, it will interfere with the independence of the Judiciary.

The BBI also seeks to raise the bar for the seven-member bench of the Supreme Court.

The Chief Justice and other judges must have at least 20 years experience as a superior court judge.

But Havi said the recommendation is unnecessary.

"A legal practitioner is least active past 30 years in practice.

Let it be fifteen years maximum and 10 years minimum.

I also encourage the need to have youthful judges," he said.


Source The Star; Link: https://www.the-star.co....on-judiciary-ombudsman/


So the biggest problem of the wheelbarrow hustler huko mashinani is how the ombudsman is appointed? OK.


No, not the Deputy President of The Republic of Kenya BUT the President of The Law Society of Kenya. Donge?

... And not HOW the Judicial Ombudsman is appointed BUT that the BBI hogwash intends to have appointed at all. Ndonge?
essyk
#49 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2020 8:26:23 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 11/15/2011
Posts: 4,484
Sqft- Just tell them that bbi is Simon makonde.
The population is bitter and combed.The more you try to force it down our throats the greater the resistance.
Eti a legal framework for payment invoices Laughing out loudly This is Kenya my fren. You will be paid when the govt says so,if they say so or when treasury releases money.You trade with gvt at your own risk.Besides why do we need bbi to enforce this? Shows how low we have sank.It is not a sign of progress These are basic trading terms,but since some tendepreneurs want quick money after supplying air and elephants they will hide under bbi.
Youths had a grace period of 1 yr to repay helb.This was based on the assumption that 1 year was all that it would take to tarmac.
Now you want youths to tarmack for 4yrs cz you know where this country stands now..And you think that it's such a great big deal.Who bewitched us?
Lastly it was very painful to watch Githae at Bomas grinning from ear to ear and dancing anyhowly.
Asijaribu!
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
aemathenge
#50 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2020 9:09:30 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,359
Location: Kerugoya
essyk wrote:
Sqft- Just tell them that bbi is Simon makonde.
The population is bitter and combed.The more you try to force it down our throats the greater the resistance.
Eti a legal framework for payment invoices Laughing out loudly This is Kenya my fren. You will be paid when the govt says so,if they say so or when treasury releases money.You trade with gvt at your own risk.Besides why do we need bbi to enforce this? Shows how low we have sank.It is not a sign of progress These are basic trading terms,but since some tendepreneurs want quick money after supplying air and elephants they will hide under bbi.
Youths had a grace period of 1 yr to repay helb.This was based on the assumption that 1 year was all that it would take to tarmac.
Now you want youths to tarmack for 4yrs cz you know where this country stands now..And you think that it's such a great big deal.Who bewitched us?
Lastly it was very painful to watch Githae at Bomas grinning from ear to ear and dancing anyhowly.
Asijaribu!


How comes The Virtual Republic of Wazua does NOT have:

The LIKE Button?

The LOVE Button?

The CARE FOR Button?

How comes?
masukuma
#51 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2020 10:35:19 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,701
Location: Nairobi
aemathenge wrote:
masukuma wrote:
sqft wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
The wiper leader saw nothing wrong with the document. smile


So what is wrong with the document? Tell us.

Nothing... we just don't want it!


I hate it when I have to agree with you. I really do.

Now why? smile
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Uram
#52 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2020 12:09:54 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 10/24/2013
Posts: 454
Location: Nairobi
sqft wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
The wiper leader saw nothing wrong with the document. smile


So what is wrong with the document? Tell us.


What is the next step for this BBI @sqft?

Another round of collecting views from the public?

Referendum?
alma1
#53 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2020 2:05:56 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 9/19/2015
Posts: 2,857
Location: hapo
essyk wrote:
Sqft- Just tell them that bbi is Simon makonde.
The population is bitter and combed.The more you try to force it down our throats the greater the resistance.
Eti a legal framework for payment invoices Laughing out loudly This is Kenya my fren. You will be paid when the govt says so,if they say so or when treasury releases money.You trade with gvt at your own risk.Besides why do we need bbi to enforce this? Shows how low we have sank.It is not a sign of progress These are basic trading terms,but since some tendepreneurs want quick money after supplying air and elephants they will hide under bbi.
Youths had a grace period of 1 yr to repay helb.This was based on the assumption that 1 year was all that it would take to tarmac.
Now you want youths to tarmack for 4yrs cz you know where this country stands now..And you think that it's such a great big deal.Who bewitched us?
Lastly it was very painful to watch Githae at Bomas grinning from ear to ear and dancing anyhowly.
Asijaribu!


Don't get me started with the HELB nonsense. What has that got to do with the constitution?

This is what is going to happen.

These fellas will get this thing passed.

Then the masses will be extremely mad about it. Then Looto will win, bigly and use the fact that he can elect Prime Ministers from his village to whip them.

Those who believe that this crap can solve any problem need help in reading.

I will never support any bill that adds mpigs, removes an independent justice system and calls president baba na mama.

I will vote for Looto instead.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#54 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2020 6:04:12 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,861
Uram wrote:
sqft wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
The wiper leader saw nothing wrong with the document. smile


So what is wrong with the document? Tell us.


What is the next step for this BBI @sqft?

Another round of collecting views from the public?

Referendum?



My question exactly, we spent 10B in the last fin year and launched it in November 2019, launch no. 2 October 2020, what's next?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
essyk
#55 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2020 10:26:57 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 11/15/2011
Posts: 4,484
alma1 wrote:
essyk wrote:
Sqft- Just tell them that bbi is Simon makonde.
The population is bitter and combed.The more you try to force it down our throats the greater the resistance.
Eti a legal framework for payment invoices Laughing out loudly This is Kenya my fren. You will be paid when the govt says so,if they say so or when treasury releases money.You trade with gvt at your own risk.Besides why do we need bbi to enforce this? Shows how low we have sank.It is not a sign of progress These are basic trading terms,but since some tendepreneurs want quick money after supplying air and elephants they will hide under bbi.
Youths had a grace period of 1 yr to repay helb.This was based on the assumption that 1 year was all that it would take to tarmac.
Now you want youths to tarmack for 4yrs cz you know where this country stands now..And you think that it's such a great big deal.Who bewitched us?
Lastly it was very painful to watch Githae at Bomas grinning from ear to ear and dancing anyhowly.
Asijaribu!


Don't get me started with the HELB nonsense. What has that got to do with the constitution?

This is what is going to happen.

These fellas will get this thing passed.

Then the masses will be extremely mad about it. Then Looto will win, bigly and use the fact that he can elect Prime Ministers from his village to whip them.

Those who believe that this crap can solve any problem need help in reading.

I will never support any bill that adds mpigs, removes an independent justice system and calls president baba na mama.

I will vote for Looto instead.



Eti baba na mama,Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Me too.Whatever it takes to stop reggae.
"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
aemathenge
#56 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2020 1:17:48 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,359
Location: Kerugoya
Quote:
Did you know that you cannot spell the word ruBBIsh without BBI? Thought you should know.


...and did you know raBBI means teacher in Hebrew, and you can't spell it without BBI.


IEBC says BBI is set to cost the Kenyan Taxpayer Ksh. 14 Billion.

Baba says BBI will cost us 2B.

Mlisema Baba is always right.

Sivyo?

So hizo 12 Billion za juu ni za kutoa ama?
masukuma
#57 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2020 3:48:20 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,701
Location: Nairobi
aemathenge wrote:
Quote:
Did you know that you cannot spell the word ruBBIsh without BBI? Thought you should know.


...and did you know raBBI means teacher in Hebrew, and you can't spell it without BBI.


IEBC says BBI is set to cost the Kenyan Taxpayer Ksh. 14 Billion.

Baba says BBI will cost us 2B.

Mlisema Baba is always right.

Sivyo?

So hizo 12 Billion za juu ni za kutoa ama?

Baba amepanga elections ngapi?


"ODM executed its Candidate Nomination Process in an excellent manner", Said No one EVER!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Gathige
#58 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2020 5:08:47 PM
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Joined: 3/29/2011
Posts: 2,216
masukuma wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Quote:
Did you know that you cannot spell the word ruBBIsh without BBI? Thought you should know.


...and did you know raBBI means teacher in Hebrew, and you can't spell it without BBI.


IEBC says BBI is set to cost the Kenyan Taxpayer Ksh. 14 Billion.

Baba says BBI will cost us 2B.

Mlisema Baba is always right.

Sivyo?

So hizo 12 Billion za juu ni za kutoa ama?

Baba amepanga elections ngapi?


"ODM executed its Candidate Nomination Process in an excellent manner", Said No one EVER!


Under BBI parliamentary political parties will play a role in nomination of IEBC Commissioners. By inference, they will have a role in how elections are conducted.

May be 2b will be for Mlolongo voting
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
essyk
#59 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2020 5:58:08 PM
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Joined: 11/15/2011
Posts: 4,484


I copied that.

Rails says BBI will only cost Kenyans 2BILLION


"The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
aemathenge
#60 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2020 8:57:01 PM
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Posts: 3,359
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