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Potential merger NIC + CBA
VituVingiSana
#141 Posted : Monday, May 27, 2019 3:43:34 PM
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Conquestador wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
There is a big hidden story in that notice.

So, Awuondo becomes Kenya chairman and also 'heads' the digital business - mshwari and its spin-offs.
Meaning, Gachora reports to Awuondo in Kenya, and someone from digital business also reports to Awuondo.
Question: is digital business part of to-be-rebranded NIC Group or not?
If yes, its not clear from this notice.
If no, then NIC shareholders have been denied the golden goose.


Gachora is the overall boss of the combined entity. Awoundo demoted from regional leadership. Awuondo is 62, Gachora 51. In corporate lingo, Awuodo is being given a soft landing, to be retired from active management very soon.



In corporate lingo, CEOs, group or otherwise, report to the Board. His chair in Kenya is Awuondo. 62 is the new 30. Unless you have no idea as to whom we are contending with here.




Every company in a group has a Board, CEO is part of the Board, Chairman role in a Board is non-executive. A person can be executive in one company and non-executive in another.

What am I missing?


Kenya company holds significant sway in the group. Chairman and Board of bank entities have not only official oversight responsibilities but also, in many cases are deeply involved in operational minutiae in risk management and fiduciary relationships that a bank enters due to regulatory aspects.

John will need to swirl above the usual board hubris very fast.
The question now is what becomes of the m-shwari company. Those who know the import of this question, knows.
Tell us.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Angelica _ann
#142 Posted : Monday, May 27, 2019 3:47:59 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 10,938
VituVingiSana wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
There is a big hidden story in that notice.

So, Awuondo becomes Kenya chairman and also 'heads' the digital business - mshwari and its spin-offs.
Meaning, Gachora reports to Awuondo in Kenya, and someone from digital business also reports to Awuondo.
Question: is digital business part of to-be-rebranded NIC Group or not?
If yes, its not clear from this notice.
If no, then NIC shareholders have been denied the golden goose.


Gachora is the overall boss of the combined entity. Awoundo demoted from regional leadership. Awuondo is 62, Gachora 51. In corporate lingo, Awuodo is being given a soft landing, to be retired from active management very soon.



In corporate lingo, CEOs, group or otherwise, report to the Board. His chair in Kenya is Awuondo. 62 is the new 30. Unless you have no idea as to whom we are contending with here.




Every company in a group has a Board, CEO is part of the Board, Chairman role in a Board is non-executive. A person can be executive in one company and non-executive in another.

What am I missing?


Kenya company holds significant sway in the group. Chairman and Board of bank entities have not only official oversight responsibilities but also, in many cases are deeply involved in operational minutiae in risk management and fiduciary relationships that a bank enters due to regulatory aspects.

John will need to swirl above the usual board hubris very fast.
The question now is what becomes of the m-shwari company. Those who know the import of this question, knows.
Tell us.


Exactly my thoughts when i read the post. Please tell us smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
sparkly
#143 Posted : Monday, May 27, 2019 7:37:08 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 7,385
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Angelica _ann wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Conquestador wrote:
There is a big hidden story in that notice.

So, Awuondo becomes Kenya chairman and also 'heads' the digital business - mshwari and its spin-offs.
Meaning, Gachora reports to Awuondo in Kenya, and someone from digital business also reports to Awuondo.
Question: is digital business part of to-be-rebranded NIC Group or not?
If yes, its not clear from this notice.
If no, then NIC shareholders have been denied the golden goose.


Gachora is the overall boss of the combined entity. Awoundo demoted from regional leadership. Awuondo is 62, Gachora 51. In corporate lingo, Awuodo is being given a soft landing, to be retired from active management very soon.



In corporate lingo, CEOs, group or otherwise, report to the Board. His chair in Kenya is Awuondo. 62 is the new 30. Unless you have no idea as to whom we are contending with here.




Every company in a group has a Board, CEO is part of the Board, Chairman role in a Board is non-executive. A person can be executive in one company and non-executive in another.

What am I missing?


Kenya company holds significant sway in the group. Chairman and Board of bank entities have not only official oversight responsibilities but also, in many cases are deeply involved in operational minutiae in risk management and fiduciary relationships that a bank enters due to regulatory aspects.

John will need to swirl above the usual board hubris very fast.
The question now is what becomes of the m-shwari company. Those who know the import of this question, knows.
Tell us.


Exactly my thoughts when i read the post. Please tell us smile


We are still waiting.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#144 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2019 12:38:49 AM
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NIC, CBA bank merger exempted from paying millions in share sale tax
https://www.businessdail...40294-kdd9kiz/index.html
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Angelica _ann
#145 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2019 1:16:34 AM
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[quote=VituVingiSana]NIC, CBA bank merger exempted from paying millions in share sale tax
https://www.businessdail...0294-kdd9kiz/index.html[/quote]

The rich & mighty are excepted from paying taxes which they can afford. Ok animal farm!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
sparkly
#146 Posted : Monday, August 19, 2019 8:01:07 AM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
[quote=VituVingiSana]NIC, CBA bank merger exempted from paying millions in share sale tax
https://www.businessdail...0294-kdd9kiz/index.html[/quote]

The rich & mighty are excepted from paying taxes which they can afford. Ok animal farm!!!


The article is misleading. Transfers of shares and land in corporate re-organisations have always been exempted from Stamp Duty. It's in the Stamp Duty Act.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Ericsson
#147 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2019 11:12:17 AM
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MA @Morris_Aron

NIC Bank is asking its employees to sign new job contracts ahead of the finalization of the merger. Meanwhile, CBA is not. Are you seeing what I am seeing?
Ericsson
#148 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2019 12:25:48 PM
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mwekez@ji
#149 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2019 5:15:42 PM
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NCBA!

mlennyma
#150 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2019 6:14:56 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
NCBA!


Sounds like drumming supportsmile
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
tom_boy
#151 Posted : Friday, September 27, 2019 9:00:38 PM
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NewCBA
They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
obiero
#152 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2019 1:53:13 AM
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tom_boy wrote:
NewCBA

Trading at KES 29.5 at the NSE.. Via introduction or which buffoonery?
COOP 5,500 ABP12.6; HF 2,000 ABP 5.90; KCB 7,500 ABP 36; KNRE 100,000 ABP 2.90; KQ 392,100 ABP 8.32
Ericsson
#153 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2019 10:21:38 AM
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obiero wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
NewCBA

Trading at KES 29.5 at the NSE.. Via introduction or which buffoonery?


Read the information memorandum that was approved by shareholders,CMA and CBK.
The merger is complete.
VituVingiSana
#154 Posted : Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:15:19 AM
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NIC buys Jamii Bora Bank’s Sh412m KQ loan
https://www.businessdail...twitter_impression=true
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwekez@ji
#155 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:14:24 AM
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NIC interim dividend checked in today. Such a tiny amount though. N'way, this is not a dividend stock
Ericsson
#156 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 6:37:53 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
NIC interim dividend checked in today. Such a tiny amount though. N'way, this is not a dividend stock

It's a stock for the president and ruling clique
cnn
#157 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 7:54:35 AM
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From Bloomerg ....Cbk governor quoted saying President Uhuru has sent the Finance bill back to parliament rejecting the rate cap ....will mps raise the two thirds required to veto the President ?
cyruskulei
#158 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:40:07 AM
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cnn wrote:
From Bloomerg ....Cbk governor quoted saying President Uhuru has sent the Finance bill back to parliament rejecting the rate cap ....will mps raise the two thirds required to veto the President ?



Yes, the 2/3 will be raised courtesy of the handshake.

This will be closed in dec when everyone will be on holiday.
Work hard at your job and you can make a living. Work hard on yourself and you can make a fortune.

Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#159 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 9:46:24 AM
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cyruskulei wrote:
cnn wrote:
From Bloomerg ....Cbk governor quoted saying President Uhuru has sent the Finance bill back to parliament rejecting the rate cap ....will mps raise the two thirds required to veto the President ?



Yes, the 2/3 will be raised courtesy of the handshake.

This will be closed in dec when everyone will be on holiday.


Pardon me, i hope you meant 'won't be raised'
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Ericsson
#160 Posted : Thursday, October 17, 2019 4:53:58 PM
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What happened to the acquisition of Jamii Bora Bank?
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