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William Ruto is NOT going to be President in 2022
Gathige
#1701 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:29:45 AM
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Joined: 3/29/2011
Posts: 2,216
wukan wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Gathige wrote:
[quote=madollar]Laughing out loudly This looks like the group that juzi refused to endorse peter kenneth for president but gave him the title of cultural ambassador

[/quo


So BABA meet some Bonoko Elders? Anything is possible this season.

Kikuyus know that they don't have council of elders or kings... Don't even assume his/her father has influence on how they will vote - talk to each Kikuyu on their own.


Very true. Agikuyu never had centralized leadership.


The lack of centralized leadership is more informed by the socio-political circumstances that prevailed at that time. Kikuyus had been ass whooped by the pastoralists Galla and Maasai tribes forcing them into a defensive posture in the ridges and forests of the highlands.

Kikuyu society was in a state of flux and lacked territorial stability which hindered the development of more sophisticated political organization with a bureaucracy like the Baganda. The constant search for new land which could be protected is what brought about the loose organization where people lived ridge to ridge and there was not much need for centralized leadership.

But as the kikuyu society has become more sophisticated the need for centralized leadership emerged to negotiate with other tribes for peaceful settlement in the Rift valley and political stability in urban areas with Western/Luo Nyanza. More or less Uhuru is acting like the first King of the Kikuyu. In 2022 kikuyus will hand over power to people who will safeguard the varied interests in urban areas and rift valley.





Quite an interesting perspective. Sounds more like the Kikuyus were so much engaged in tiling the land in the ridges and forests and had little time left to gather at "mungetho".
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Queen
#1702 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2020 4:52:02 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 11/21/2018
Posts: 427
Location: Britain
Gathige wrote:
wukan wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Gathige wrote:
[quote=madollar]Laughing out loudly This looks like the group that juzi refused to endorse peter kenneth for president but gave him the title of cultural ambassador

[/quo


So BABA meet some Bonoko Elders? Anything is possible this season.

Kikuyus know that they don't have council of elders or kings... Don't even assume his/her father has influence on how they will vote - talk to each Kikuyu on their own.


Very true. Agikuyu never had centralized leadership.


The lack of centralized leadership is more informed by the socio-political circumstances that prevailed at that time. Kikuyus had been ass whooped by the pastoralists Galla and Maasai tribes forcing them into a defensive posture in the ridges and forests of the highlands.

Kikuyu society was in a state of flux and lacked territorial stability which hindered the development of more sophisticated political organization with a bureaucracy like the Baganda. The constant search for new land which could be protected is what brought about the loose organization where people lived ridge to ridge and there was not much need for centralized leadership.

But as the kikuyu society has become more sophisticated the need for centralized leadership emerged to negotiate with other tribes for peaceful settlement in the Rift valley and political stability in urban areas with Western/Luo Nyanza. More or less Uhuru is acting like the first King of the Kikuyu. In 2022 kikuyus will hand over power to people who will safeguard the varied interests in urban areas and rift valley.





Quite an interesting perspective. Sounds more like the Kikuyus were so much engaged in tiling the land in the ridges and forests and had little time left to gather at "mungetho".


..... no wonder they were sat on by Wangu wa Makeri.
kaka2za
#1703 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:30:37 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,023
Location: Gwitu
Queen wrote:
Gathige wrote:
wukan wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Gathige wrote:
[quote=madollar]Laughing out loudly This looks like the group that juzi refused to endorse peter kenneth for president but gave him the title of cultural ambassador

[/quo


So BABA meet some Bonoko Elders? Anything is possible this season.

Kikuyus know that they don't have council of elders or kings... Don't even assume his/her father has influence on how they will vote - talk to each Kikuyu on their own.


Very true. Agikuyu never had centralized leadership.


The lack of centralized leadership is more informed by the socio-political circumstances that prevailed at that time. Kikuyus had been ass whooped by the pastoralists Galla and Maasai tribes forcing them into a defensive posture in the ridges and forests of the highlands.

Kikuyu society was in a state of flux and lacked territorial stability which hindered the development of more sophisticated political organization with a bureaucracy like the Baganda. The constant search for new land which could be protected is what brought about the loose organization where people lived ridge to ridge and there was not much need for centralized leadership.

But as the kikuyu society has become more sophisticated the need for centralized leadership emerged to negotiate with other tribes for peaceful settlement in the Rift valley and political stability in urban areas with Western/Luo Nyanza. More or less Uhuru is acting like the first King of the Kikuyu. In 2022 kikuyus will hand over power to people who will safeguard the varied interests in urban areas and rift valley.





Quite an interesting perspective. Sounds more like the Kikuyus were so much engaged in tiling the land in the ridges and forests and had little time left to gather at "mungetho".


..... no wonder they were sat on by Wangu wa Makeri.



Wangu was just a colonial headman and she sold her soul to Karuri wa Gakure to get the title
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
alma1
#1704 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2020 10:16:19 PM
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why are people still bothered about this fella.

We have another 2 years to go before it's relevant.

For now Uhuru is our problem. Hii Hujuma namba we have to discuss.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#1705 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2020 3:50:40 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,861
alma1 wrote:
why are people still bothered about this fella.

We have another 2 years to go before it's relevant.

For now Uhuru is our problem. Hii Hujuma namba we have to discuss.



Which 2 years? 2021 is here already
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Thitifini
#1706 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:47:17 PM
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Joined: 1/15/2015
Posts: 652
Location: Kenya
alma1 wrote:
why are people still bothered about this fella.

We have another 2 years to go before it's relevant.

For now Uhuru is our problem. Hii Hujuma namba we have to discuss.


What can we discuss after the cash has already reached it's destination? Unless we review the digital driving licence cash before it's airlifted.

But again,what to do after the review/discussion?

60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
Thitifini
#1707 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:50:08 PM
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Joined: 1/15/2015
Posts: 652
Location: Kenya
kaka2za wrote:
Queen wrote:
Gathige wrote:
wukan wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Gathige wrote:
[quote=madollar]Laughing out loudly This looks like the group that juzi refused to endorse peter kenneth for president but gave him the title of cultural ambassador

[/quo


So BABA meet some Bonoko Elders? Anything is possible this season.

Kikuyus know that they don't have council of elders or kings... Don't even assume his/her father has influence on how they will vote - talk to each Kikuyu on their own.


Very true. Agikuyu never had centralized leadership.


The lack of centralized leadership is more informed by the socio-political circumstances that prevailed at that time. Kikuyus had been ass whooped by the pastoralists Galla and Maasai tribes forcing them into a defensive posture in the ridges and forests of the highlands.

Kikuyu society was in a state of flux and lacked territorial stability which hindered the development of more sophisticated political organization with a bureaucracy like the Baganda. The constant search for new land which could be protected is what brought about the loose organization where people lived ridge to ridge and there was not much need for centralized leadership.

But as the kikuyu society has become more sophisticated the need for centralized leadership emerged to negotiate with other tribes for peaceful settlement in the Rift valley and political stability in urban areas with Western/Luo Nyanza. More or less Uhuru is acting like the first King of the Kikuyu. In 2022 kikuyus will hand over power to people who will safeguard the varied interests in urban areas and rift valley.





Quite an interesting perspective. Sounds more like the Kikuyus were so much engaged in tiling the land in the ridges and forests and had little time left to gather at "mungetho".


..... no wonder they were sat on by Wangu wa Makeri.



Wangu was just a colonial headman and she sold her soul to Karuri wa Gakure to get the title

Socketsmile

60% Learning, 30% synthesizing, 10% Debating
murchr
#1708 Posted : Wednesday, October 21, 2020 10:51:01 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,861
Who's ready for 90 Senators?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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KulaRaha
#1709 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2020 8:45:04 AM
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Joined: 7/26/2007
Posts: 6,485
murchr wrote:
Who's ready for 90 Senators?


As 454 worthless MPigs.....Kenya is doomed!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
gk
#1710 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:31:25 AM
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Joined: 5/17/2008
Posts: 484
KulaRaha wrote:
murchr wrote:
Who's ready for 90 Senators?


As 454 worthless MPigs.....Kenya is doomed!



We are we so in love with quick fixes and making solutions to past problems yet they may not necessarily be our problems in future.
The problem we have is not under representation but poor representation and the biggest challenge to devolution is not lack of funds but theft and wastage.

gk
#1711 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:49:04 AM
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Joined: 5/17/2008
Posts: 484
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murchr
#1712 Posted : Thursday, October 22, 2020 3:42:52 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,861
gk wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
murchr wrote:
Who's ready for 90 Senators?


As 454 worthless MPigs.....Kenya is doomed!



We are we so in love with quick fixes and making solutions to past problems yet they may not necessarily be our problems in future.
The problem we have is not under representation but poor representation and the biggest challenge to devolution is not lack of funds but theft and wastage.




Just because 1 person cannot accept defeat. The 2007 fix was to add a prime minister and so many ministerial positions such that in 2013 the wage bill was unsustainable. For how long will Kenya suffer?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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sqft
#1713 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2020 11:28:35 AM
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Joined: 1/10/2015
Posts: 771
Location: Kenya
alma1 wrote:
While the world is thinking how to help SME's,

Jubilee is thinking about a house in Pangani?

Who votes for these people?




Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
madollar
#1714 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2020 3:32:42 AM
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Joined: 11/17/2009
Posts: 1,990
Location: GA
Hii maneno ya nyeri italeta makasiriko when uhuru returns to central Laughing out loudly

murchr
#1715 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2020 7:13:00 AM
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Posts: 15,861
madollar wrote:
Hii maneno ya nyeri italeta makasiriko when uhuru returns to central Laughing out loudly



Kalonjo confessed that when he went to the soko they told him hawataki mambo ya MBBI. He was also visiting Nyeri
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Gathige
#1716 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2020 1:22:09 PM
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Joined: 3/29/2011
Posts: 2,216
madollar wrote:
Hii maneno ya nyeri italeta makasiriko when uhuru returns to central Laughing out loudly




In Centro hakuwa mtu atawacha kazi yake to clap by the roadside.


Next time, they can ferry NYS Vijana to lead Kazi Kwa Vijana parades
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
Fyatu
#1717 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2020 2:40:41 PM
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Posts: 1,783
Location: Nakuru
William Ruto currently punching holes on BBI on live TV.

I see people eating humble pie when hustler wins-all-and-takes-all in 2022
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
wukan
#1718 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2020 5:04:13 PM
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Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,489
Fyatu wrote:
William Ruto currently punching holes on BBI on live TV.

I see people eating humble pie when hustler wins-all-and-takes-all in 2022


His speech today was on point. He has confirmed that he doesn't want a contest between poor and rich. Looks like he listened to Baba wise words the proletariat revolution will not be led by the bourgeoisie.
madhaquer
#1719 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2020 6:21:34 PM
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Today he asked the questions right in front of them all. This is the boldness we need to see in our leaders.
Not the nonsense of cowering to someone ati because he is the president.
masukuma
#1720 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2020 6:58:10 PM
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madhaquer wrote:
Today he asked the questions right in front of them all. This is the boldness we need to see in our leaders.
Not the nonsense of cowering to someone ati because he is the president.

Yes! Arap Samoei is quite the bold one! Kuuliza maswali ngumu yet being respectful. I liked that one!
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