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IRAN v/s ISRAEL+USA WAR.
selah
#1 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2011 11:17:56 AM
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Apparently the US congress is pressuring Obama to go to war with Iran and signs show by next week this war will be televised.

But according to Patrick in one of his articles this war has more to do with israel isolation in the middle east than threat of iranian nuclear bomb development sample this.

Quote:
Israel’s greatest fear is that the P5+1 will reach a compromise with Iran which would allow it to continue enriching uranium for civilian purposes. This might then lead in due course to the world agreeing to co-exist with a nuclear Iran. If that were to happen, Israel’s monopoly of nuclear weapons -- a key asset in maintaining its regional military supremacy – would be lost.

Iran has, in fact, made several recent overtures to the United States and its allies. When he was in New York last month to attend the annual meeting of the UN General Assembly, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the Washington Post that Iran would stop producing uranium enriched to 20 percent if foreign countries would provide the fuel needed for the Tehran Research Reactor, which makes medical isotopes. Some 850,000 Iranians are said to depend on such isotopes for cancer treatment


http://www.patrickseale.com/
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
StatMeister
#2 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2011 11:48:38 AM
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[quote=selah]Apparently the US congress is pressuring Obama to go to war with Iran and signs show by next week this war will be televised.

But according to Patrick in one of his articles this war has more to do with israel isolation in the middle east than threat of iranian nuclear bomb development sample this.

Quote:
Israel’s greatest fear is that the P5+1 will reach a compromise with Iran which would allow it to continue enriching uranium for civilian purposes. This might then lead in due course to the world agreeing to co-exist with a nuclear Iran. If that were to happen, Israel’s monopoly of nuclear weapons -- a key asset in maintaining its regional military supremacy – would be lost.

Iran has, in fact, made several recent overtures to the United States and its allies. When he was in New York last month to attend the annual meeting of the UN General Assembly, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told the Washington Post that Iran would stop producing uranium enriched to 20 percent if foreign countries would provide the fuel needed for the Tehran Research Reactor, which makes medical isotopes. Some 850,000 Iranians are said to depend on such isotopes for cancer treatment


http://www.patrickseale.com/[/quote]

The US is too cash-poor to go to war, and they know it. If they do, what happened to Egypt, Germany (WW1) and UK (WW2) will happen to them.
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Insurgent
#3 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2011 2:23:39 PM
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It is the high time someone leveled New York and Washington to dust. It would be an ideal Hiroshima Complex for the modern day sole Bully. Am missing Osama already.


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youcan'tstopusnow
#4 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2011 2:58:40 PM
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US, UK 'Planning for War' Against Iran

"Britain’s armed forces are accelerating contingency planning for a coordinated attack by the U.K. and United States against Iran’s nuclear facilities amid growing concerns over the Iran’s weapons program."

http://www.newsmax.com/N...in/2011/11/03/id/416733





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Intelligentsia
#5 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2011 5:16:56 PM
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and this is based on the same effed up intel. they had on the WMD program in Eye-raq?
Mainat
#6 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2011 5:23:28 PM
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About time somebody whipped the eye-rynians
Sehemu ndio nyumba
Kratos
#7 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2011 6:31:04 PM
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Mainat wrote:
About time somebody whipped the eye-rynians


For what reason?

“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
jasonhill
#8 Posted : Friday, November 04, 2011 8:31:33 PM
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I'd rather both sides grow up and act like adults, even if that means that they just come clean about who is bullying who, and who wants what, rather than:

1. Spreading enriched nuclear material in the air as radioactive dust for thousands of kilometers in all directions, far past any "borders".

2. Doubling the price of petroleum based products.

3. Potentially destabilizing the entire region and possibly dragging a nuclear armed Pakistan, or any other loose nukes into the fight.

I think that if they really want to duke it out, they should pick the best 1000 people from each team, and go hand to hand in the desert, or, since both sides believe that God is on their side, maybe they should should just pray and fast it out. They can even make silly, angry faces at each other while they do it. Just so long as they leave the rest of the world OUT OF IT.

Oops, almost forgot. It's about oil. Nevermind.

Best,

Hill
gk
#9 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 11:15:46 AM
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Is there possibility that the US and not Iran is responsible for the attack on the oil tanker? To sabotage diplomacy as Iran says..
Angelica _ann
#10 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 11:27:28 AM
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gk wrote:
Is there possibility that the US and not Iran is responsible for the attack on the oil tanker? To sabotage diplomacy as Iran says..


Likely to be Saudi.
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gk
#11 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 1:41:55 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
gk wrote:
Is there possibility that the US and not Iran is responsible for the attack on the oil tanker? To sabotage diplomacy as Iran says..


Likely to be Saudi.


Plausible
Rahatupu
#12 Posted : Friday, June 14, 2019 3:54:10 PM
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gk wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
gk wrote:
Is there possibility that the US and not Iran is responsible for the attack on the oil tanker? To sabotage diplomacy as Iran says..


Likely to be Saudi.


Plausible


Russia and China too quiet on this. Unusual
hardwood
#13 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:22:04 AM
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hardwood
#14 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:23:37 AM
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Angelica _ann
#15 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:34:10 AM
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Trying the patience of US/Trump. Russia is on Iran side.
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Ngalaka
#16 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 12:18:52 PM
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What Trump is doing to Iran is not fair. As a matter of fact he's been bullying and provoking them into a military confrontation.

Unfortunately, Iran being who they are, they are walking right into the trap.

Nearly the rest of the world (exempting the Arab-Saudi led axis & Netanyahu) is not okay with Trumps approach - withdrawing from the nuclear deal and the attendant provocations.

Even Putin his friend called him out on this careless move.

Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
hardwood
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 20, 2019 11:34:17 PM
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Who does the US think it is? Some global bully? Can you imagine if it was Iran travelling thousands of kilometers to go fly drones off the coast of Florida? Trump should stop his upus!
Realtreaty
#18 Posted : Friday, June 21, 2019 10:12:52 AM
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US revenge on Iran downing its drone may spark the whole region as Iran may strike ships using the strait to discourage oil shipment.

Iran may as well target any US interest in the gulf to cause more chaos for everyone.

This may be the reason US pulled back the suggestion to strike back to wake up the gulf giant to start throwing stones to everyone especially those harboring US interests.

The best option is to use international law to further pin Iran

We would fear the whole region businesses coming to a halt who depend mostly on imported supplies while they export oil products and re-export businesses due to the peace currently in the region.
limanika
#19 Posted : Friday, June 21, 2019 10:53:41 AM
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Realtreaty wrote:
US revenge on Iran downing its drone may spark the whole region as Iran may strike ships using the strait to discourage oil shipment.

Iran may as well target any US interest in the gulf to cause more chaos for everyone.

This may be the reason US pulled back the suggestion to strike back to wake up the gulf giant to start throwing stones to everyone especially those harboring US interests.

The best option is to use international law to further pin Iran

We would fear the whole region businesses coming to a halt who depend mostly on imported supplies while they export oil products and re-export businesses due to the peace currently in the region.
Laughing out loudly That was just a dummy to test Iran capabilitiesLaughing out loudly
harrydre
#20 Posted : Friday, June 21, 2019 11:38:35 AM
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Good thing is Putin and China are with Iran. DT is just a bully since Iran has refused to negotiate with him.
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