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am6612
#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:15:06 PM
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Please anyone who has advice on whether bluegum wood is good for roofing.
This has come because cypress wood is very expensive. Is bluegum prone to being eaten by termites?
Anyone who has roofed, please advice on the best way to use it to roof. Does it bend?
What precautions do I need to take care of?
Thank you.
milken
#2 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:49:55 PM
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Blue Gum is Termite resistant and good for roofing. However, it is prone to warping and bending if not dry. Additionally, thinner pieces will split at the edges so you need to be careful when buying.
Itari muting'oe ihuragwo ngi ni Ngai
maina20
#3 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 3:58:24 PM
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very true, Bluegum is a good bet for roofing...if u get a mature tree ( 20yrs or more) the better
..desire to succeed is always fighting with fear of failure..
Muheani
#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 4:52:27 PM
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i bought a number of blue gums from a farmer in olkarou. Iam yet to cut them down. What do i do to ensure they dont bend on drying. Am not sure of their age.
milken
#5 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 5:18:15 PM
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@ Muheani:
1. Ensure that they dry under a shade.
2. During the drying period stack them and put some weight over them e.g using the logs.
Itari muting'oe ihuragwo ngi ni Ngai
Njung'e
#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 5:57:09 PM
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@am66,
BG has many disadvantages when used to roof.

1.Weightier than cypress hence very heavy roofs.
2.Warps.
3.Twists.
4.Splits.
5.Difficulties when driving nails through.
6.Sags

Since you are not going to roof your house every election year,disregard the price of cypress and go for it.I also believe you want an even and beautiful roof.

Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
majimaji
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:27:30 AM
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I have roofed with blue gum. It is ok. You don't get perfectly straight trusses but with a good fundi the covered roof is as good as any. Plus it is very resistant to termites/insect (i did not treat mine). Also due to its strength compared to cypress, you can use smaller timber members*

*of course consult an engineer in regard to sizing.
Jitahidi
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:51:37 AM
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am6612 wrote:
Please anyone who has advice on whether bluegum wood is good for roofing.
This has come because cypress wood is very expensive. Is bluegum prone to being eaten by termites?
Anyone who has roofed, please advice on the best way to use it to roof. Does it bend?
What precautions do I need to take care of?
Thank you.


I cleared roofing early this week including putting timbers for ceiling. I used Bluegum and the outcome is okay according to me.
When buying, make sure you buy red blue gum timbers and not the white ones. They are better. Termites is not an isssue
Kwanini
#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:50:16 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
@am66,
BG has many disadvantages when used to roof.

1.Weightier than cypress hence very heavy roofs.
2.Warps.
3.Twists.
4.Splits.
5.Difficulties when driving nails through.
6.Sags

Since you are not going to roof your house every election year,disregard the price of cypress and go for it.I also believe you want an even and beautiful roof.



To deal with warping,twisting,driving nails thro' fundis recommend you do the trusses before the Bgum is dry. To avoid splits they "tie" tha trusses with iron hoops. Due to the weight, u can downgrade the cross members by an inch or so. Sagging happens if the Cross members are poorly done. For me B.Gum any time.
"For i am the master and the captain of my fate"
Pablo
#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:57:39 PM
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Did my roofing some months ago with blue gum.
My fundi had discouraged me as there was more work for him.

True you will need more nails and more fundi time. As @kwanini has said straightness depends on the cross members and all other supports.

Just 2 tips from me.
1. buy long blue gum pieces i.e 15ft and above only. Short ones are a headache to keep joining.

2. For the wood where the tiles will be nailed on, dont use blue gum. The nails will damage the tiles as possibility of nails bending is very high. If this happens leaks will be constant in yr house.
vin
#11 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 9:45:30 PM
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Pablo wrote:
Did my roofing some months ago with blue gum.
My fundi had discouraged me as there was more work for him.

True you will need more nails and more fundi time. As @kwanini has said straightness depends on the cross members and all other supports.

Just 2 tips from me.
1. buy long blue gum pieces i.e 15ft and above only. Short ones are a headache to keep joining.

2. For the wood where the tiles will be nailed on, dont use blue gum. The nails will damage the tiles as possibility of nails bending is very high. If this happens leaks will be constant in yr house.


You are spot on bro,i did my roofing and blundering sometime late November using the same.When you decide to use the blue gum, take the fundi to choose the right quality and the end product will not disappoint.
Advice is like snow.The softer it lands the harder is sticks.
Njung'e
#12 Posted : Thursday, January 27, 2011 3:47:52 AM
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Kwanini wrote:

To deal with warping,twisting,driving nails thro' fundis recommend you do the trusses before the Bgum is dry. To avoid splits they "tie" tha trusses with iron hoops. Due to the weight, u can downgrade the cross members by an inch or so. Sagging happens if the Cross members are poorly done. For me B.Gum any time.


Just because it is cheaper??.Before i go that way,consider this.If you roof your house with not so well seasoned timber,you pay the price in terms of shrinkage.....Just how did i leave that out??......In a risk/benefit Vs cost analysis,cypress takes it any day and the only other wood which comes close despite being a hardwood is Lusiola (Markhamia lutea.Popular in Western and Nyanza and also referred to as Omwobo in Ekegusii.Quite common in Siaya,Gem and Karachuonyo)....If you ever get this for your ceiling,floor and half walls....woow!Fantastic stuff!
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
Elder
#13 Posted : Friday, January 28, 2011 9:50:41 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
Kwanini wrote:

To deal with warping,twisting,driving nails thro' fundis recommend you do the trusses before the Bgum is dry. To avoid splits they "tie" tha trusses with iron hoops. Due to the weight, u can downgrade the cross members by an inch or so. Sagging happens if the Cross members are poorly done. For me B.Gum any time.


Just because it is cheaper??.Before i go that way,consider this.If you roof your house with not so well seasoned timber,you pay the price in terms of shrinkage.....Just how did i leave that out??......In a risk/benefit Vs cost analysis,cypress takes it any day and the only other wood which comes close despite being a hardwood is Lusiola (Markhamia lutea.Popular in Western and Nyanza and also referred to as Omwobo in Ekegusii.Quite common in Siaya,Gem and Karachuonyo)....If you ever get this for your ceiling,floor and half walls....woow!Fantastic stuff!


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Njung'e
#14 Posted : Saturday, January 29, 2011 10:13:50 AM
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Elder
#15 Posted : Saturday, January 29, 2011 2:22:21 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
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Blackberry
#16 Posted : Monday, February 07, 2011 2:01:51 PM
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Pablo wrote:
Did my roofing some months ago with blue gum.
My fundi had discouraged me as there was more work for him.

True you will need more nails and more fundi time. As @kwanini has said straightness depends on the cross members and all other supports.

Just 2 tips from me.
1. buy long blue gum pieces i.e 15ft and above only. Short ones are a headache to keep joining.

2. For the wood where the tiles will be nailed on, dont use blue gum. The nails will damage the tiles as possibility of nails bending is very high. If this happens leaks will be constant in yr house.


did mine with Blue Gum too. and hahaha I had a hard time with my fundi as he was not for BG ati sijui its too hard....mara inavunza misumari... but tulifaulu and am Happy with the result...3yrs down na sijaona hio wraping & twisting....

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mmarto
#17 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:46:14 AM
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did mine 6 years ago and the roof has a finish like anyother. Dont regret at all. i got the timber from blue gum that was grown on hardy/rocky soil. If the b.gum is grown in swampy area it will split and bend.
The only time you should be looking down on others is when you are helping them up.
bird_man
#18 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 10:58:56 AM
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I had to get a new bed after I bought one made from Blue Gum!It started bending and wrapping and making noises.That was just a bed.....roof je?
Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
mmarto
#19 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 1:01:59 PM
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the diff is span or lentgh and supports that go with it. in my village almost all roofing is done in bluegum and i have done a descent house using it. As s'one has pointed, it can sag and twist and is hard to drive nails if "too" dry. Incidentally b.gum has several varieties and depending on which variety your timber comes from, you may experience few or many of issues associated with it.
The only time you should be looking down on others is when you are helping them up.
McReggae
#20 Posted : Tuesday, February 08, 2011 2:52:44 PM
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Guka,
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