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TJRC report out; now claims of doctoring
freiks
#1 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:29:50 PM
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TJRC report out and already in pdf

http://www.tjrckenya.org...TJRC_report_Volume_4.pdf
Life is an endless adventure
McReggae
#2 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:34:58 PM
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After kutibiwa....it's in order.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
washiku
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:02:41 PM
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Posts: 8,865
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?
maka
#4 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:24:50 PM
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washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...
possunt quia posse videntur
maka
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:50:12 PM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
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maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...

just pitiad this thing almost everyone is here story za further investigations by the DPP tusahau...swiftly to other things
possunt quia posse videntur
harrydre
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:20:17 PM
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Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 5,168
Location: kanjo
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...

just pitiad this thing almost everyone is here story za further investigations by the DPP tusahau...swiftly to other things


na pia ati recommendations za public apologies...surely! what a waste of taxpayers money!!!
When planning for a year, plant corn. When planning for a decade, plant trees. When planning for life, train and educate people - Chinese Proverb
freiks
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:05:22 AM
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Joined: 6/8/2010
Posts: 1,209
harrydre wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...

just pitiad this thing almost everyone is here story za further investigations by the DPP tusahau...swiftly to other things


na pia ati recommendations za public apologies...surely! what a waste of taxpayers money!!!

Kumbe kutibiwo ni kumaanisha 1982 coup was not injustice, kweli Kenya kuna wenyewe
Life is an endless adventure
nakujua
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:13:25 AM
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Joined: 12/17/2009
Posts: 2,228
Location: Kenya
freiks wrote:
harrydre wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...

just pitiad this thing almost everyone is here story za further investigations by the DPP tusahau...swiftly to other things


na pia ati recommendations za public apologies...surely! what a waste of taxpayers money!!!

Kumbe kutibiwo ni kumaanisha 1982 coup was not injustice, kweli Kenya kuna wenyewe

those were reformist fighting for the second liberation, hakuna injustice in fighting for your rights.
but this report is basically based on other past reports they mostly quoted other reports - what was the need.
All this was done by some of the "brightest minds" in the country
freiks
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 11:15:47 AM
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Joined: 6/8/2010
Posts: 1,209
nakujua wrote:
freiks wrote:
harrydre wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...

just pitiad this thing almost everyone is here story za further investigations by the DPP tusahau...swiftly to other things


na pia ati recommendations za public apologies...surely! what a waste of taxpayers money!!!

Kumbe kutibiwo ni kumaanisha 1982 coup was not injustice, kweli Kenya kuna wenyewe

those were reformist fighting for the second liberation, hakuna injustice in fighting for your rights.
but this report is basically based on other past reports they mostly quoted other reports - what was the need.
All this was done by some of the "brightest minds" in the country


WHAT!!!! Overthrowing a government is reforms? I need a better dictionary
Life is an endless adventure
MADE
#10 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 12:12:40 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 11/12/2007
Posts: 391
freiks wrote:
nakujua wrote:
freiks wrote:
harrydre wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...

just pitiad this thing almost everyone is here story za further investigations by the DPP tusahau...swiftly to other things


na pia ati recommendations za public apologies...surely! what a waste of taxpayers money!!!

Kumbe kutibiwo ni kumaanisha 1982 coup was not injustice, kweli Kenya kuna wenyewe

those were reformist fighting for the second liberation, hakuna injustice in fighting for your rights.
but this report is basically based on other past reports they mostly quoted other reports - what was the need.
All this was done by some of the "brightest minds" in the country


WHAT!!!! Overthrowing a government is reforms? I need a better dictionary

May be, may be not. Reforms come in different modes. Ask yaself what the general feeling would be like, if one Bob Mugabe were to be overthrown regardless of how.
Age is transforming me into an Elder;becoz Admin hasn't made me one.
McReggae
#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:32:32 PM
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A toothcomb of the documents shows this guys did some job........is there any goodwill to implement it??
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
digitek1
#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:13:43 PM
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a gathering of of wazua chiefs would have produced the same report or better in a week
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
Impunity
#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:18:10 PM
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Location: Masada
digitek1 wrote:
a gathering of of wazua chiefs would have produced the same report or better in a week


smile smile smile
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Mastermind
#14 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:19:05 AM
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Is KPLC among those who are supposed to apologise?
If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
Wendz
#15 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:41:37 AM
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Joined: 6/19/2008
Posts: 4,128
MADE wrote:
freiks wrote:
nakujua wrote:
freiks wrote:
harrydre wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...

just pitiad this thing almost everyone is here story za further investigations by the DPP tusahau...swiftly to other things


na pia ati recommendations za public apologies...surely! what a waste of taxpayers money!!!

Kumbe kutibiwo ni kumaanisha 1982 coup was not injustice, kweli Kenya kuna wenyewe

those were reformist fighting for the second liberation, hakuna injustice in fighting for your rights.
but this report is basically based on other past reports they mostly quoted other reports - what was the need.
All this was done by some of the "brightest minds" in the country


WHAT!!!! Overthrowing a government is reforms? I need a better dictionary

May be, may be not. Reforms come in different modes. Ask yaself what the general feeling would be like, if one Bob Mugabe were to be overthrown regardless of how.


you'll be surprised more kenyans will vote mugambe to be overthrown than zimbabweans themselves. I work with them, and much as they do appreciate that things are bad back home, they also do believe there was an upper hand with the economy and that was all because mogambe fought for the lands for the common mwananchi.
maka
#16 Posted : Thursday, May 23, 2013 11:48:56 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 6,575
Location: Nairobi
freiks wrote:
nakujua wrote:
freiks wrote:
harrydre wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...

just pitiad this thing almost everyone is here story za further investigations by the DPP tusahau...swiftly to other things


na pia ati recommendations za public apologies...surely! what a waste of taxpayers money!!!

Kumbe kutibiwo ni kumaanisha 1982 coup was not injustice, kweli Kenya kuna wenyewe

those were reformist fighting for the second liberation, hakuna injustice in fighting for your rights.
but this report is basically based on other past reports they mostly quoted other reports - what was the need.
All this was done by some of the "brightest minds" in the country


WHAT!!!! Overthrowing a government is reforms? I need a better dictionary

..it is reforms for real...mweupe kama pamba hayuko.
possunt quia posse videntur
harrydre
#17 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2013 3:50:07 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 5,168
Location: kanjo
maka wrote:
freiks wrote:
nakujua wrote:
freiks wrote:
harrydre wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...

just pitiad this thing almost everyone is here story za further investigations by the DPP tusahau...swiftly to other things


na pia ati recommendations za public apologies...surely! what a waste of taxpayers money!!!

Kumbe kutibiwo ni kumaanisha 1982 coup was not injustice, kweli Kenya kuna wenyewe

those were reformist fighting for the second liberation, hakuna injustice in fighting for your rights.
but this report is basically based on other past reports they mostly quoted other reports - what was the need.
All this was done by some of the "brightest minds" in the country


WHAT!!!! Overthrowing a government is reforms? I need a better dictionary

..it is reforms for real...mweupe kama pamba hayuko.


literally..see for yourself



When planning for a year, plant corn. When planning for a decade, plant trees. When planning for life, train and educate people - Chinese Proverb
McReggae
#18 Posted : Friday, May 24, 2013 8:47:13 AM
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Joined: 6/17/2008
Posts: 21,897
Location: Nairobi
harrydre wrote:
maka wrote:
freiks wrote:
nakujua wrote:
freiks wrote:
harrydre wrote:
maka wrote:
maka wrote:
washiku wrote:
McReggae wrote:
After kutibiwa....it's in order.


Shaiman arichidwo kuondoa jina lake? Na Uhuru hangetoa ya babake na yeye?

angetoa it would have been as useless as tissue paper...

just pitiad this thing almost everyone is here story za further investigations by the DPP tusahau...swiftly to other things


na pia ati recommendations za public apologies...surely! what a waste of taxpayers money!!!

Kumbe kutibiwo ni kumaanisha 1982 coup was not injustice, kweli Kenya kuna wenyewe

those were reformist fighting for the second liberation, hakuna injustice in fighting for your rights.
but this report is basically based on other past reports they mostly quoted other reports - what was the need.
All this was done by some of the "brightest minds" in the country


WHAT!!!! Overthrowing a government is reforms? I need a better dictionary

..it is reforms for real...mweupe kama pamba hayuko.


literally..see for yourself





Indeed how can TJRC go round the country and refuse to ask me and my pple the evils Raila Odinga did to us? TJRC was paid the same way Waki, KNHRC, Aliston, Ocampo were paid to exclude Raila Odinga's name. Who is this that pays for Raila? God? No, No, I think Raila is still on vendetta to finish our President and DP politically. How is he not in the TJRC report? We must wake up Kenyans and smell coffee, ask ourselves how powerful is Raila? How can he compromise everyone: Ndung'u report, Waki report, KNCHR report, Hague courts and now TJRC? Lets be serious Kenyans. TJRC report was written in Nyanza, yes. I am so angry. I am so mad. We must protest. Why not? What do you mean? We must find a way of putting Raila Odinga in the TJRC report. This impunity perpetuated by Raila must stop. I am going to court. Who will sign the petition with me? I am not going to sleep until he is there, where are the Raila haters pls join me?
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Shotgun
#19 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2013 12:33:48 PM
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Tebes
#20 Posted : Monday, June 03, 2013 3:11:02 PM
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Pray Pray Pray

So this is part of what International commissioners say was ordered to be deleted? OK. Move on..

Quote:
203.In addition, there were peculiar cases of land grabbing and related malpractices during Kenyatta’s administration which serve to illustrate how deeply the problem of land grabbing had cut into Kenya and the wanton manner in which key government officials, including the president grabbed what should
Have been public or communal land and “dished” It to relatives. A case in point involves the president himself. When Kenyatta’s son, Muigai, married Isaiah Mathenge’s daughter in 1976, Kenyatta’s wedding gift was a large tract of government land which was, apparently, acquired without official approval and without compliance with legal procedures.1
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